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Misfit
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Re: Old Timers [Re: Grampa]
      #136804 - 03/31/08 05:49 AM

I am pretty sure the worst part of it was a huge political argument that I contributed to the worst side in. I said some really stupid things to 42nd and it started a heated argument,I made it worse and worse and when I eventually saw that I had taken it too far, other parties had come in and made it that much worse, A few of the best people left not long after that and never returned and it was on a slow decline ever since.

If a political discussion takes place and you notice everyone shy away from it, that is why.

It's one of those moments you wish you could just go back in time and make it never have happened.


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maybrick
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Re: Old Timers [Re: Grampa]
      #136810 - 03/31/08 02:33 PM

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Can anyone clue me in on exactly what happened here? Did people just slowly drift away, or was it a fast decline? It seems like we went from 50-100 active topics a day to about 5-10.




Hi guys! I just wanted everyone to know that I still check in and glance at the forum every 6 months or so. I do remember and know exactly why and when people began drifting away, and it was when the format changed to the current incarnation. I understand the move was done to save money, but when you buy cheap, you get cheap, and in comparison to the old board, this one looks cheap with a Capital C. I stuck it out for a while but it when it became apparent that few people were coming back and days went by without any new posts I just sort of moved on with everybody else. I loved being a member of this site, but even now I still have problems with the new format. First off, I hate typing my post in this little box. It's a real strain on my aging eyes!

The old board had less functionality but it was pleasing to the eyes. This one may have more functionality, but it's flat out ugly. I could look past that, but it's obvious that a lot of members couldn't.

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EdgarAllen
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Re: Old Timers [Re: maybrick]
      #136816 - 03/31/08 11:23 PM

There was an influx of some immature users that wanted to have flame wars. Kids that didn't have anything better to do I guess. They would hijack threads they knew nothing about just to stir the shit around. There wasn't enough consistent moderation/banning to keep that behavior in check. And when these users did participate, it was more along the lines of name your top five horror movies or Linnea Quigley jugs kick ass. Didn't take long for alot of the serious posters to give up or move to greener pastures. A few bad apples spoiled the barrel IMHO.

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DanielSavage
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Re: Old Timers [Re: EdgarAllen]
      #136819 - 04/01/08 01:22 AM

Linnea Quigley's jugs did kick ass. You must admit that those are some beautiful knockers my friend. By the way, I'm voting for Clinton because of her viewpoint on universal health care, republicans are sadists and I'd like to know what YOUR top 5 horror movies are.

"Cautiously backs out of the room"

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Misfit
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Re: Old Timers [Re: DanielSavage]
      #136823 - 04/01/08 06:05 AM

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Linnea Quigley's jugs did kick ass. You must admit that those are some beautiful knockers my friend. By the way, I'm voting for Clinton because of her viewpoint on universal health care, republicans are sadists and I'd like to know what YOUR top 5 horror movies are.

"Cautiously backs out of the room"




Haha, then you like me will be voting for someone who will not even be in the running at the time(though not the same person)


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DanielSavage
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Re: Old Timers [Re: Misfit]
      #136825 - 04/01/08 12:53 PM

Misfit, it's still too soon to predict who is going to obtain the democratic nomination. The news channels want you to believe that Clinton is pretty much out of it but that isn't true. She's won the last several primaries, and she has a huge lead on Obama in Pennsylvania. She can still pull it off. I'm not trying to spark a political conversation, I just wanted to share my opinion on the subject...

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maybrick
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Re: Old Timers [Re: DanielSavage]
      #136827 - 04/01/08 02:54 PM

Not true. Obama has won the last two contests, Mississippi and Wyoming, since the big March 4th primary day when Clinton finally broke Obama's long line of consecutive victories. Her margins of victories on the 4th were so small in fact, that with Mississippi and Wyoming, Obama effectively negated any advancement Clinton made that day.

The reason why Obama is ahead, isn't so much that he's won more states, it's that in the states he wins he wins by much larger margins. Clinton has only managed to get 60% of the vote in one state: Arkansas, but Obama does that regularly, sometimes even with more than 70%. Most often in the places where she wins, she barely breaks the 50th percentile.

See here, these are the state that the candidates won by more than 60%:

Clinton:
Arkansas 70%

Obama:
Mississippi 61%
Maryland 60%
Illinois 65%
Georgia 67%
D.C. 75%
Virginia 64%
Hawaii 76%
Wyoming 61%
Washington 68%
Nebraska 68%
Minnesota 66%
Alaska 75%
Idaho 79%
Kansas 74%
North Dakota 61%
Colorado 67%

Clinton has the lead in Pennsylvania, and she'll probably keep it. But their primary is still 3 weeks away and as voting day comes the statistics usually narrow. I know a lot of people have lost faith in her since "Snipergate". She can only clinch the nomination if she starts winning contests by Obama sized margins, and so far (as you can see from above) she appears incapable of doing so.

Edited by maybrick (04/01/08 03:13 PM)


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DanielSavage
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Re: Old Timers [Re: maybrick]
      #136828 - 04/02/08 01:17 AM

Well, you seem to know your stuff, but there are super deligates that have yet to pick a side. Personally I don't think it matters which of them gets the nomination. With all the bickering back and forth in the democratic party I find it hard to believe that either of them will ultimately finish off McCain. I truly hope that I'm wrong about that, because if McCain wins the presidency I don't think much of anything will change. Change is what this country needs most right now, and I don't think McCain agrees with that. If he wins I think he'll be identical to Bush, and Bush is awful. Anyone who disagrees with that has either A. been in a coma for nearly 8 years or B. has suffered some type of severe blunt trauma to the head. And I'm done with the politics, thank you...

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Misfit
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Re: Old Timers [Re: DanielSavage]
      #136830 - 04/02/08 05:37 AM

Actually McCains voting record is identicle to Hillary's.
He certainly does not have a lot of fans in his own party.


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MojoNexus
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Re: Old Timers [Re: Misfit]
      #136831 - 04/02/08 09:08 AM

Misfit, I would suggest checking out http://thomas.loc.gov before making a claim that Hillary and McCain have identical voting records.

Yes, the GOP has been disappointed with McCain's repeated failure to toe the party line, but McCain is still a conservative through and through. He's always been pro-war with a fondness for 'bombing the hell out of them' according to several sources including his biography. He also has a reputation for being quick to judge and prone to fits of rage. Not exactly qualities I want in the man with his finger on the big red button. He is, however, anti-torture and with his past experiences as a P.O.W. that is totally understandable.

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Misfit
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Re: Old Timers [Re: MojoNexus]
      #136832 - 04/02/08 10:30 AM

Those qualities are not something I consider "Conservative"

When that term comes to mind, in what I support, I expect it to be.

Not spending money unless absolutely needed, Small Government with less interference with citizens lives, and War a part of the money issue, only when absolutely needed.

McCain is like Bush, a Neocon, not a conservative.
A Neocon is someone who laughs at Democrats for tax and spend, then do a borrow and spend instead.

The differences on issues of importance are minute.
Most Important page

He came in second to her in Lobbyist Payouts..
Her and Obama show why they have an interest in Healthcare

Guess everyone interest in their healthcare plans failed to read that you are fined for not paying for health insurance, not given it at a good price.
She and he have a close obligation to Big Oil


The poster for this years elections should be reflected by this


Whoever wins, we lose.

The GOP is not dissapointed in him, they put him there.. those like myself who have oldschool ideals of less government and less spending.. well it's not like we have had anything promising to choose from except maybe Ron Paul in the last 15 years or so. It's a sign of the times when a man starts talking like Thomas Jefferson and such words are treated like they are odd and kooky.

For a long time now we were ok with choosing from what we considered the lesser of two evils, but I think Bush has made that no longer good enough for a lot of people.. it's a real eye opener that all of these people are the same, if they did not suck up to the Federal Reserve they would not be a viable candidate, nothing will ever change with a two party system, they will just get better and better in convincing us that it will.



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MojoNexus
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Re: Old Timers [Re: Misfit]
      #136833 - 04/02/08 10:39 AM

I love the http://www.opensecrets.org/ site. Kudos to you, more folks need to visit it. I am a firm believer that you really need to ask the question "Who benefits?" when looking at the actions of any politician. Follow the dollar and you will find the truth.

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Misfit
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Re: Old Timers [Re: MojoNexus]
      #136834 - 04/02/08 10:44 AM

Absolutely, you have to ask yourself.
what kind of person spends their entire life savings, million upon millions for a job that pays what? $100k a year? Personally I know it's a bit kooky but I feel the Federal Reserve runs everything and makes all of the choices, you don't get to be viable without backing them.

I take that because in looking up the forming of the federal reserve it lead to the incoming tax coming about, if you research the income tax you will find that the paperwork was worded differently in every state, in most worded in a way that made it sound as if they were voting to keep the tax from happening. if even one word is different on any of the voted documents that means it is not legal, it was not legally passed by the states and they knew this, they just imposed it anyways.

You will find no laws on the books anywhere stating that you have to pay an income tax. Reagan had actually opened up an investigation on where the income tax money was going when he noticed a few billion dollars that could not be accounted for, a week into that investigation he said he wanted to get rid of the federal reserve, he was shot in the heart just days later (Bush Sr, member of the Federal Reserve). Noone has even so much as brought it up since.

My Belief is that both Republicans and Democrats are backed by the exact same people and all have the exact same objectives, and they focus on stupid and pointless topics that mindless americans are passionate about "Abortion, Gay Marriage" which the federal government should not be sticking their nose in, in the first place and that is just to get people behind them one way or the other and really their minds are taken off important things like.. Where the hell is all of our money going? Why do spend billions in Iraq and still allie with the people who attacked us? etc etc.


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