DanielSavage
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I guess Rob Zombie is going to try to pull this one off. I've read that he wants Werewolf Women of the SS to be his next movie and then he wants to tackle an as of yet unknown western. I can only think that if Werewolf Women of the SS happens the Grindhouse thing is going to be a part of it. It would be kind of cool to have known directors make cheesy movies from time to time under the Grindhouse marquee.
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Dr Peligro
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That one worked well as a trailer, but it'll probably be a little hard to pull off as a full-length movie imho. I hope Zombie is on his A-game when he makes it, since I find him to be a rather uneven director (I loved his Devil's Rejects, but found House of 1000 Corpses downright awful, and his Halloween remake seriously lacking).
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DanielSavage
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I hear ya man. I'm not crazy about House of 1000 Corpses either, but to be honest it was cut so many times that it's hard to tell what the movie was originally intended to be. Do you remember how long it took to be released? It was a ridiculous wait. The Halloween remake definitely could've been better but it could've been worse too. The unrated dvd is a better movie than the theatrical release and it has kinda grown on me for some reason. It isn't even remotely as good as the original but I don't exactly hate it...
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I hear ya man. I'm not crazy about House of 1000 Corpses either, but to be honest it was cut so many times that it's hard to tell what the movie was originally intended to be. Do you remember how long it took to be released? It was a ridiculous wait. The Halloween remake definitely could've been better but it could've been worse too. The unrated dvd is a better movie than the theatrical release and it has kinda grown on me for some reason. It isn't even remotely as good as the original but I don't exactly hate it...
I liked 1000 Corpses I loved Rejects
but I REALLY hated the Halloween remake, I may have to give the unrated DVD a chance but the version I saw in theatres I found to be just abysmal, it really felt like it was made by the WWE studios than any real horror fan.
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HAMMERoftheGODS
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I read somewhere that Rob Zombie shot something like over a half-hour's worth of material for the faux trailer and had to painstakingly cut it down to the trailer's final size. Wonder how he would go about making the movie, if he would just start all over or not.
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DanielSavage
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That's an interesting question. If he already has a half hour of material then it probably has a little substance to it. If I were him I'd build on that material rather than start from scratch. I guess it would ultimately depend on the studio that owns the rights to the work that's already been filmed. If it's distributed by the same company that did Grindhouse he'll probably apply the previously filmed segments. Who knows? If it's really going to happen he'll be given a budget to play with which would make these previous segments useless. I really think the Grindhouse marquee should be used for a series of quirky exploitation style films "kind of like National Lampoons except for violence and gore ridden cheese balls". I didn't care much for Grindhouse when it was released, but it has grown on me quite a bit. I still don't care for Death Proof, but I'm actually a pretty big fan of Planet Terror at this point. I thought both films together were a bit much, but after the split I have an easier time watching them. I could see Planet Terror as a cult classic twenty years from now. I think a series of Grindhouse films that are zany like Troma movies with bigger budgets for effects and things could really catch on if given the chance...
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HAMMERoftheGODS
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I loved Planet Terror. Over the top in every way. Death Proof... not so much. So many things wrong with that one, namely pacing and dialogue. Not even Kurt could save that one for me.
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HAMMERoftheGODS
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Finally found out where I read about Rob shooting 30 mins worth of film:
'Grindhouse' filler becomes the choice bit Guest directors Rob Zombie, Eli Roth and Edgar Wright bring sleaze to their mock film trailers. By Mark Olsen, Special to The Times
Quentin Tarantino's Grindhouse Festival celebrates cheesy films Do not be fooled into heading for the bathroom or concession stand during the "intermission" that breaks up the double-billed features that make up "Grindhouse" — "Planet Terror" and "Death Proof."
Perhaps the craftiest trick pulled off by writer-directors Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino in creating their much anticipated, self-conscious throwback to the heady days of low-rent theaters, scratched prints and the all-scuzz, all-the-time exploitation ethos is the false movie trailers that make up the intermission reel.
The filmmakers enlisted the likes of Rob Zombie ("The Devil's Rejects"), Edgar Wright ("Shaun of the Dead") and Eli Roth ("Hostel") when it became clear they were too bogged down with finishing their features to take on the trailers as well.
Rodriguez recalled Zombie's pitch: "He goes, 'It's called 'Werewolf Women of the SS.' I said, 'Say no more. Go shoot it.' "
And shoot he did. While all three trailers were shot in just two days apiece, Wright and Roth essentially shot only what ended up on screen. Zombie estimates that he had enough footage to make a solid half-hour movie and was particularly pained to whittle it down.
Zombie assembled quite a cast for his mini-movie, including Udo Kier and Sybil Danning, B-movie character actors Bill Moseley and Tom Towles, and his wife, Sheri Moon Zombie. Best of all, however, is an appearance by Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu.
How exactly one gets from Nazi scientists to topless superwomen, machine-gunning werewolves to Fu Manchu remains delightfully obscure in the trailer, and that confusion is not only intentional but, as Zombie explains, a tip of the hat to exploitation convention.
"I was getting very conceptual in my own mind with it," he says. "A lot of these movies, they would be made cheaply. The real famous Nazi-type movie, 'Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS,' was made on the leftover sets from 'Hogan's Heroes.' That's why that movie, for a cheap exploitation film, it looks pretty nice.
"A lot of times these movies would be made like, 'Well, you know, I've got a whole bunch of Nazi uniforms, but I got this Chinese set too. We'll put 'em together!' They start jamming things in there, so I took that approach."
Zombie, Wright and Roth all express their appreciation and admiration for Rodriguez and Tarantino, not only as filmmakers, but for creating the "Grindhouse" project in the spirit of dementedly rekindling the lively, night-out fun of old-time moviegoing.
Yet for "Grindhouse" to really capture the spirit of the original grind houses, the seedy, run-down movie theaters that would show wild and relentless releases truly devoid of any redeeming values, the filmmakers had to take it down a few notches and be sure to connect with the lowlifes and the squalor. They needed the merely odd to become the truly outrageous.
"To me the only thing missing from our grind-house movies is they are not quite sleazy enough," says Tarantino of "Planet Terror" and "Death Proof."
The mock trailers, however, are something else.
"These guys brought the sleaze factor. They are coming from a sleaze place that me and Robert did not come from, but that needed to be there for the picture to be proper."
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