Grok
Risen from the Grave
Reged: 07/30/08
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I'm serious. Don't get me wrong, I do love the original Nightmare. But if asked, which one really does deserve a little fresh blood in its tank?
What bothered me about the Halloween remake was Michael's background. Abused? Give me a break. One of the majors points of the original is that Meyers represents that nasty, scummy undercurrent beneath suburbia. But on the outside, everything whitewashed and lifeless. And Meyers, faceless, acting without reason or logic, is the byproduct.
I'm sure someone out there would argue for Zombie's creative license, but why? It's brilliant as is. And not something I think needed a slimey finger poked into.
NOES on the other hand could have used just that backstory to flesh out Krueger. The most disturbing thing about the movie should have been what a sick f*** he was when he was alive. As scary as it was when I first saw it, I think all that would make for something well above where NOES stands with me now.
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"The day before I die I shall kill the pimp that turned my daughter into a whore! The day after I die I shall help you find justice for yourself!" - Psychic Killer
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MojoNexus
Flesh Eater
Reged: 10/22/01
Posts: 1077
Loc: Manhattan, KS USA
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I think Rob Zombie should do original material, as should anyone, but... if he REALLY wants to do remakes, he would be well served to visit H.G. Lewis' filmography for inspiration. You can see the influence of Lewis on Zombie's whole schtick.
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Grok
Risen from the Grave
Reged: 07/30/08
Posts: 38
Loc: Beyond Belief
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You can see the influence of Lewis on Zombie's whole schtick.
I think you're right, along with every other influential horror director of the last 30 years. I guess that's why I don't care if he does remakes. His work is so derivative that at least with remakes he's giving some credit to the people he's ripping off.
He could create his own little niche here. Like Uwe Boll did with video games.
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"The day before I die I shall kill the pimp that turned my daughter into a whore! The day after I die I shall help you find justice for yourself!" - Psychic Killer
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DanielSavage
Flesh Eater
Reged: 09/25/03
Posts: 1196
Loc: West Virginia
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I think Rob Zombie has done some really entertaining stuff so far. I personally think The Devil's Rejects is more sleazy and exploitational "if that's a real word" than Death Proof or Planet Terror, and I firmly believe that's what Zombie's niche is likely to be. I think there's a place for films like The Devil's Rejects, Werewolf Women Of The SS, T-Rex and the inevitable spaghetti styled western that he's mentioned on a couple of different occasions.
If sleazeball exloitation styled films are indeed coming back into fashion, and it seems that they are, Rob Zombie is likely to be a major part of the scene...
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Edited by DanielSavage (08/09/08 05:06 AM)
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GuywiththeGun
Living Dead
Reged: 06/05/01
Posts: 1930
Loc: Parts Unknown
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If Rob Zombie does the NOES remake, I will officially start suspecting that Hollywood is playing a joke on me.
Freddy, like Myers, is pure evil. And we've seen what this hack does with characters that are supposed to be pure evil. (white trash make-over/sob-story).
Keep him far, far away from any legitimate horror franchise, especially my favorite one. Please.
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Zombierattfilms
Recently Deceased
Reged: 11/06/08
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i don't understand where you guys are coming from with that, personally, I loved Rob Zombies Halloween, it was the same movie just with more meat.I've been in and know houses like the myers home, they do something to your brain. And it makes more sense that he is just a kid who had all these eliments around him lead to murder, then a druid thorn cult, or "he just snaps" the ideal suburban home with a dark underneath is appealing to some, but not to me, I get where Rob was coming from,
And as for NOES, I agree it could use a gritty remake, with a deep look into Freddy's life, much like the brief sequences in part 6. He has a rich backstory you can pull material from
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Slayer_McKill
Rotting Corpse
Reged: 09/07/03
Posts: 310
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I think a NOES prequel would be a pretty interesting idea. Not sure if Zombie is the man for the job, but a movie depicting Freddy's life before getting all crispy would be worth seeing.
That being said, do you guys think a movie like that could actually be made? I mean it would basically focus on him butchering 20 or so little kids before getting burned alive.
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DanielSavage
Flesh Eater
Reged: 09/25/03
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Loc: West Virginia
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I think a NOES prequel would be a pretty interesting idea. Not sure if Zombie is the man for the job, but a movie depicting Freddy's life before getting all crispy would be worth seeing.
That being said, do you guys think a movie like that could actually be made? I mean it would basically focus on him butchering 20 or so little kids before getting burned alive.
It would be extremely difficult to get an R rating with a storyline like that...
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Slayer_McKill
Rotting Corpse
Reged: 09/07/03
Posts: 310
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Agreed. It seems like depicting the fictitious death of children is still a line that movies have a hard time being able to cross. I wonder how long that will hold up/if it will ever change.
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Zombierattfilms
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Hard to say, we think we're matrue enough to understand reality and fantasy, but still I meet people who say they hate GTA because they say it promotes violence. It seems that violent art doesn't create violent people, it creates bored stupid people who feel they have to bitch about something.
That aside, I have to say I can see that film being made, and made well, depends on who is behind it, not creating a music video jump cut film, but something darker, closer to Seven, showing the idea not the actual act of violence at first to get us comfortable, and then slamming us in the face with an ultra gorey climax
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EdgarAllen
Living Dead
Reged: 09/16/00
Posts: 1170
Loc: Star City
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Moral issues aside, I kinda think Freddy's played out. The idea itself isn't bad, but assuming such a prequel film would follow cannon, following Freddy thru multiple child molestations and murders would presumably NOT include the supernatural aspect, and I'm not sure that would really make much of a NOES film to be honest. It might be a significant exploitation film if you could stomach it, but I don't think it would feel like a Freddy movie. Then again, he would be using that freaking glove wouldn't he... eech. I take it back, that could work in quite grotesque ways.. Still, who would have the balls to promote and distribute it. Nobody with any clout, that much is certain.
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Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday."
-Psalms 91:5-6
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Slayer_McKill
Rotting Corpse
Reged: 09/07/03
Posts: 310
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Definitely agree that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone willing to invest large sums of cash and stake their name in such a movie. Perhaps Zombie's suggestion of making it similar in terms of feel to Seven would be a way around the reservations people have with the children. It definitely has the potential to be a truly horrifying movie instead of the cheese fest that the series turned in to after the first one.
I'm envisioning an ending where he's first able to enter an Elm Street kid's dream and gets to work on his revenge as a way of tying it into the first film.
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